Well in the first chat room we started to talk about the characters and how we described them. We first were talking about how Gregor was being treated and that it was unfair. We felt that there was way to much to say about the father. We talked about him I think the most. He was just a mean guy; it seemed that he didn't really love his son. He never showed him any composition or anything. The father felt he was only in his life to pay the bills. Once he could not pay the bill it seemed all of a sudden his father was able to walk and get up to go to work. The only character that really tried to stay with Gregor was his sister. She was the one that was feeding him and was giving him a chance. But after awhile she even gave up on him and soon that's how he died. Before he died why would he just not want to leave if he new they didn't want him?
The other chat room i was in the potpourri room for a long time. We talked about a lot of random things on what would happen if they hap pend type of thinking. This shows that we were really into the book and thought a long time about it. We also talked about the ending and how it bugged everyone that they saw him dead one day and the next talking about how they got to get the sister a husband. I thought that was very disturbing and made me very upset. How could you just stop thinking about your own son like that? The other chat room i went into was the irony room. This room was not so spread out but we did have really good discussion. I feel that a lot of the ironic things were always based around him. Some examples would be that it was ironic that they would din the borders but not want to feed or try anything with his own son. I thought that was very upsetting. The other one that i remember was that it was ironic why he grabbed the picture in his room. I think he wanted it just so he could have something to stay the same. That was his goal to be wealth and take care of his family. Ironical sense he was not able to do that when he turned they didn't take care of him.
I like your first example of irony, regarding the borders: it is indeed ironic that they would be fed and their son would be starved and ignored. However, I'm not sure your second example is really irony--how is it ironic that he grabbed the picture and wanted to hold on to it? I see his desire to hold on to the picture as a desire to hold on to something in his life that gave him beauty, and perhaps even comfort on some level. I do agree that it's ironic that he couldn't take care of the family, even though he wanted to, but they clearly didn't take care of him.
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